Wednesday, October 3, 2007

DovBear, The Cranial Emancipator

DovBear, The Cranial Emancipator
from DovBear et al by CousinOliver
By CousinOliverAccording to some, Moshe received the torah in its entirety, including all that is d'rabanan.Avrohum followed the entire torah. Yosef's brothers even followed the entire torah (re: yosef complaint of Aver Min Hachai). That means Moses, Our Teacher, kept the rules of Sfira. He did not get a haircut during the 33 days nor did he listen to music. He was privy to the information that some day in the future R' Akivas students will perish because they did not respect each other.Why then didn't Moe pass on a note to future generations, to R Akiva, to teach all incoming students to love thy neighbor?Why didn't Avrohom, Our Father, who already was keeping pesach, inform the Jews that they would be saved by a dude named Moses...you know, THE SECOND IN COMMAND OF EGYPT? That should have really been a known secret.Why didn't Aaron, The Priest, leave a sticky note that read:Dear Mordechai,Save yourself the trouble and knock off Haman while he is still an infant.Yours,AaronWhy didn't Yosef, The Righteous, warn Jews of Temple 1 and Temple 2 eras to amass a large army leading up to the 9th of Av and to look out for a dude named Nevuchadnetzar or Titus?Side note: DovBear needs a descriptive title. How about DovBear, The Verbal?

3 comments:

Ally said...

I don't think that it was Moses or Aaron's choice to be able to change the future by warning fellow descendants about future misfortunes. They were not G-d, so they should not have had the ability to warn future descendants about disasters that would occur. If G-d wanted these things to be prevented, He would have warned these Jews himself (in a sign or a dream).

Jess said...

I don't think that it was there choice, nor do I think it would have been a good idea for people to now the future. While, yes, knowing that Haman was going to try and kill all of the Jews could have helped quite a bit. However, one of the best ways to learn has and will always be through one's mistakes. If no one had ever done anything wrong or if nothing bad had ever happned to the Jews, maybe no one would appreciate G-d, respect G-d, or want to follow all the mitzvot and commandments. And while that might sound harsh, people really do learn things best the hard way.

Also, in the case of R'Akiva and his students. If they are learning Torah and such then why should he have to teach his students to "love thy neighbour". Should that not have been one of the most basic principles that they should have already known and understood before?

daniel_ozier said...

Firstly, I agree with Ally and Jess that it was not their choices nor responsibilities to warn the future generations of their mistakes. As jess said, one of the oldest and greatest ways of learning has always been through one's mistakes.

I am also of the opinion that if destiny truly exists then nothing can be done to stop it. Even if Moses or Avraham or anyone for that matter had warned the people of the disasters to come, if God meant for them to happen then they would have occurred no matter what.

People might have been able to stop Haman from his attempted annihilation of the Jews, but in turn maybe that would have caused someone else to attempt the same thing. No one man has the ability to change God's desires. So i believe it was impossible for our ancestors to warn us about our mistakes because ultimately our mistakes would have occurred...